Saturday, February 09, 2008

Say Uncle...

Today, I was trying to get some shots of the redpolls when one attacked a junco that was trying to feed underneath the feeder. I flashed back to elementary school when bullies would make you "say uncle"...
Anyone know where the phrase 'Say Uncle' meaning 'I give up' came from?
It seems that while "crying uncle" is today regarded as an Americanism, its origins go all the way back to the Roman Empire. Roman children, when beset by a bully, would be forced to say "Patrue, mi Patruissimo," or "Uncle, my best Uncle," in order to surrender and be freed.
As to precisely "why" bullies force their victims to "cry uncle," opinions vary. It may be that the ritual is simply a way of making the victim call out for help from a grownup, thus proving his or her helplessness. Alternatively, it may have started as a way of forcing the victim to grant the bully a title of respect -- in Roman times, your father's brother was accorded nearly the same power and status as your father. The form of "uncle" used in the Latin phrase ("patrue") tends to support this theory, inasmuch as it specifically denoted your paternal uncle, as opposed to the brother of your mother ("avunculus"), who occupied a somewhat lower rung in patrilineal Roman society. (from the Word Detective.com)

Amazing what you can learn these days :-) Though it looks like the junco said "uncle" in the last shot he soon righted himself and scared off the redpoll but I wasn't fast enough with the shutter...

5 comments:

Aunt "B's" Backyard said...

Cute story. So, that's a Redpoll?
I never thought I had seen one, but now that I see yours, maybe I have. I would have thought that was some type of sparrow. Silly me.

Jayne said...

Wow Marsha, and amazing catch on camera! I didn't know Redpolls were so territorial in their actions. Glad the Junco was able to give him "what for." Interesting origin of crying uncle. :c)

BJ said...

I liked the story about "crying uncle". Never heard that one.

The pictures are great. They are some cute little birds. I haven't heard of a redpoll before. I'm not bird literate.....but I'd like to be. Thanks for sharing these wonderful pics.

Candy Duell said...

Marsha,
I just love your blog. Your stories are great, along with your pictures. I had no idea what a Redpoll was until today. I also Like Aunt b would of thought it was some kind of sparrow too. I also love the chickadees, and love your poem. I will be back! :)

RuthieJ said...

Hi Marsha,
I really enjoyed this post--those redpoll and junco pics are really neat. I thought my juncos were pretty assertive, but I guess they've got nothing on the redpoll!
P.S. I've given you an award over on my blog.